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  • 12/9/2011
Was curious as to what y'alls opinions on what awd cars are good/not so good for tuning/modding.. I was looking into evos, but my plan to afford one fell through. So now i'm on the hunt for an awd car and was hoping on to get some insight on my different options. What would be some decent awd cars to tune?
  • 12/9/2011
Originally posted by certifiednewb95
Was curious as to what y'alls opinions on what awd cars are good/not so good for tuning/modding.. I was looking into evos, but my plan to afford one fell through. So now i'm on the hunt for an awd car and was hoping on to get some insight on my different options. What would be some decent awd cars to tune?
Well, it depends on a lot of factors. A big one, what is your price range for the base car and price range for mods. I have a 95 AWD Eagle Talon which has an extremely good backing for parts, plus the motors are bullet proof. Once I get this new engine installed I am hoping to hit 450+ hp. Rocky SDS has an 05 Volvo S40??? Out of the gate the Volvo has more power than me, but since the Talon engine has been around so long parts are so much cheaper and you can get much more power for the dollar. The Volvo does have a lot of creature comforts that the Talon does not. For one it is a Volvo and is nice and quiet inside even at WOT. The heat and AC work much better (Actually I dont have AC or a radio at all) and they are prettier to look at. What are you looking to get out of the car? Snow driving? Track Driving? Tell me "Why AWD?" and I can spout off a few more AWD cars that can be modded.
  • 12/9/2011
Well, reasons I want awd A)snow/ice driving, getting up to the mountains is crucial for me, snowbaording is my life, B) occasionally track driving as we have a few nice ones out here C) awd is bad ass. haha. I really like the aftermarket support for talons/eclipses. I was looking into one of those as well.I've always been in love with evos, so when I was told my plans to go to alaska weren't gonna work for my family i was super bummed. Subarus, their nice, but i'm in school to become a mechanic and try to do all the work on my own cars, with exceptions of course. But really, i'm open to lots of suggestions and don't really know what's out there as far as awd cars that have a decent aftermarket support, or are capable to be tuned/modified.
  • 12/9/2011
2002-2003 Subaru Impreza WRX might be in your price range. If you're thinking AWD then you can't forget Subaru. Also if Non-Turbo was ok an Impreza 2.5 RS is decent. With a motor swap down the road you can have a beast.
  • 12/9/2011
Ru's are nice. Idk how I forgot them! There is also the 3000gt/Stealth. They are a bit heavier than the Eclipses/Talons, but have more ammenities. I have also heard of an AWD Civic Wagon, but I think it is a bit rare at this point. You could also swap in the CRV drivetrain to a Civic. There is also the Audi S4 or A4 series or the VW R32. That is actually about all of the affordable AWD cars that I can think of other than starting to list a bunch of swaps. Eclipse/Talon 3000GT/Stealth Evo... I think all generations have AWD available. All Subarus Imprexa, WRX etc. Audi S4 (Whole Quattro Series) VW R32 (Whole 4Motion Series) Civic Wagon Are there any that I am missing?
  • 12/10/2011
I love subbies, don't get me wrong. But there a pain in the ass to work on from what i've heard, and as far as tuning them goes you spend to much for not enough gain. Though, there great in stock form and with minimal mods, i will admit that. Just like most. What about BMW? are there any 3 series awd? I heard a rumor there was, but never really knew. I don't know enough about euro cars. I've heard the a4's/s's and audi's in general have a lot of small electrical problems? Sorta like BMW'S..?
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  • 12/10/2011
As far as ease of tuning goes, DSM's, Evolutions, and Subaru from my knowledge will be your best bet. Subies arent really hard to work on at all, actually much easier then a DSM in my opinion. Of course there is Volvo, not a bad choice and you also have Audi/VW. I do not know much for the euro AWD market though. When it comes to cost of parts thus far I have found mitsubishi to be the least expensive by far. And also remember there is a reliability issue with DSM's and as far as the 3KGT/Stealth goes, if you can find one in good condition its not bad but like DSM's they tend to have reliability issues as well. For the snow I always have prefered Subaru's symmetrical AWD. Tends to handle like a beast in snow.
If you talk the talk, you better crankwalk the walk.
  • 12/10/2011
I hear you on the subbie, and dsm reliability problems. My brother had a 2.5 rs subbie and it was great in snow. I'm just kinda concerned that since i'm tryin' to do most of the work on which ever car I get myself that boxer engine i've heard is a PITA to work on. How's a 2g gsx in the snow comparatively to the subbie's symmetrical awd?
  • 12/12/2011
Originally posted by certifiednewb95
I hear you on the subbie, and dsm reliability problems. My brother had a 2.5 rs subbie and it was great in snow. I'm just kinda concerned that since i'm tryin' to do most of the work on which ever car I get myself that boxer engine i've heard is a PITA to work on. How's a 2g gsx in the snow comparatively to the subbie's symmetrical awd?
Actually a Boxer engine is pretty simple to work on. I owned a WRX for a few years and had no problems, spark plugs are a little trick but thats just having to remove some extra things to get to them. Still only about a 30 minute job. Mitsubishi's AWD is pretty good in the snow. One of my good friends had a 98 GSX for years and we live in Colorado so.... Subaru's symmetrical has just a more even output of power and no torque steer at all. Actaually if I can find the video I will post it, but I watched a test on AWD systems. Subaru vs. Honda vs. Audi/VW and I cant remember if there was another competitor but Subaru's topped everyone elses as far as daily driving and safety goes. Plus Mitsu and Subaru AWD is not front nor rear wheel drivie biased or does it need to see a wheel slipping to engage the AWD, it's all real time.
If you talk the talk, you better crankwalk the walk.
  • 12/12/2011
Yeah, I cannot see how a Ru would be any harder than any other import to work on other than there are two banks of cylinders similar to a V6. I would say if you want cost effective performance mods to stay away from cars like BMW, VW, Audi etc. I talked to a couple guys who put turbo kits on their M3s and were approaching $20k all said and done. As soon as it snows here, I will let you know how the GSX/TSI awd handles!
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